Meeting Minutes for 16 April 2006

Apr 16 21:02:33 *    Sonar_Gal now calls this meeting to Order.
Apr 16 21:02:42 BobJensen    So where are we at? do we want to run this formal or seat of the pants?
Apr 16 21:02:51 Questor    brb
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Apr 16 21:02:56 Sonar_Gal    seat of the pants if it's just us
Apr 16 21:02:57 BobJensen    OK David
Apr 16 21:03:04 BobJensen    Sonar_Gal: +1
Apr 16 21:03:12 Sonar_Guy    +1
Apr 16 21:03:29 BobJensen    Scott what is on our list?
Apr 16 21:03:49 BobJensen    We are running FC5 --> DONE
Apr 16 21:04:00 BobJensen    We have unified logins --> DONE
Apr 16 21:04:07 Sonar_Guy    Well damestro has some things to talk about tonight, he was in about 2 hours ago.
Apr 16 21:04:08 BobJensen    what else?
Apr 16 21:04:20 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: I saw that
Apr 16 21:04:52 Sonar_Guy    Give me a sec
Apr 16 21:04:56 BobJensen    let me ask this, is the search engine worth a $200-400 investment by the group?
Apr 16 21:05:35 BobJensen    If we are going to host it we need more RAM, and I think a second or third IP would be nice
Apr 16 21:06:11 BobJensen    IP cost me $60 per year each, I am paying for one now and will continue doing so
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Apr 16 21:06:26 Sonar_Guy    Hmm, Not an issue here.
Apr 16 21:06:59 Sonar_Guy    You know I am willing to donate as required.
Apr 16 21:07:12 Sonar_Guy    What about everybody else??
Apr 16 21:08:41 Sonar_Gal    Well Bob you know where we stand we will donate when needed
Apr 16 21:09:02 BobJensen    I know but is it worth it to us?
Apr 16 21:09:11 BobJensen    and to the community as a whole?
Apr 16 21:09:27 Sonar_Guy    Lets see what damestro needs first and discuss this at a later date.
Apr 16 21:09:29 BobJensen    that is the question, coming up with the money is not an issue IMO
Apr 16 21:10:09 BobJensen    can we promote this in such a way that the community will benefit
Apr 16 21:10:25 Sonar_Guy    I feel we need the site, but for it to become a community asset it needs to be welcomed in #fedora, as a way to save time in searching.
Apr 16 21:10:37 BobJensen    also is it bringing real value that say a google targeted search can't
Apr 16 21:11:05 BobJensen    these are the issues at hand IMO
Apr 16 21:11:06 Sonar_Guy    Yes, it would be better to say Fedora Search is your friend vice GIYF
Apr 16 21:11:28 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: I can agree with that
Apr 16 21:11:35 Sonar_Gal    +1
Apr 16 21:12:15 Sonar_Guy    A google targeted search brings up too much questionable content/information for a user to weed through.
Apr 16 21:12:34 Sonar_Guy    Especially a new user.
Apr 16 21:12:42 BobJensen    I am with you, these are the thing as I would see them also
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Apr 16 21:13:06 BobJensen    I wanted to make sure that you guys see what I see in your own words
Apr 16 21:13:26 BobJensen    playing Devil's advocate a little
Apr 16 21:13:30 Sonar_Guy    yup
Apr 16 21:13:57 BobJensen    I think it is a great idea and that is one of the reasons I have backed it
Apr 16 21:14:25 Sonar_Guy    +1
Apr 16 21:14:29 Sonar_Gal    +1
Apr 16 21:14:45 Sonar_Guy    just wish we could get him here for the meetings!!  lol
Apr 16 21:15:01 BobJensen    well we have to take that as it comes
Apr 16 21:15:37 BobJensen    is there anything not fedoraSearch related we need to touch on?
Apr 16 21:15:48 Sonar_Gal    I have noticed that he has dinner with his parents so he says every sunday.  9 EST is only 7 MNT time
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Apr 16 21:16:22 BobJensen    COntinue updating posts, (Good Job everyone) use tidy on the HTML to clean it up....
Apr 16 21:16:23 Sonar_Guy    Southern had a couple of topics for how-tos, but I do not remember what they were.  I just finished the broadcom wireless
Apr 16 21:16:30 *    Southern_Gentlem (n=notfred@24-197-22-221.dhcp.rdfr.va.charter.com) has joined #fedora-unity
Apr 16 21:16:34 Southern_Gentlem    hello all
Apr 16 21:16:38 Sonar_Gal    Evening Southern_Gentlem
Apr 16 21:16:39 BobJensen    Hey Southern_Gentlem
Apr 16 21:16:40 Sonar_Guy    lol
Apr 16 21:16:49 Sonar_Guy    speak his name and he arrives!!
Apr 16 21:16:51 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: glad you are here
Apr 16 21:16:52 Southern_Gentlem    sorry for being late was testing new hardware
Apr 16 21:17:11 BobJensen    I will have a PPC online for the group in the next 2 days
Apr 16 21:17:14 Sonar_Guy    np, what were the topics you saw as needed for the how-tos?
Apr 16 21:17:25 Sonar_Guy    Cool
Apr 16 21:17:26 BobJensen    slightly off topic
Apr 16 21:17:44 Sonar_Guy    Nope ties into the respin that Southern_Gentlem is working on.
Apr 16 21:17:48 Southern_Gentlem    how to install 32bit firefox on 64bit system
Apr 16 21:17:52 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: do we have an updated task list?
Apr 16 21:18:21 Southern_Gentlem    win32codecs without atroms if possible
Apr 16 21:18:22 Sonar_Guy    No I need to come up with a new one and say the heck with the format we used previously
Apr 16 21:18:25 Southern_Gentlem    atrpms
Apr 16 21:18:48 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: can I ask that be Priority 1 for you at this time?
Apr 16 21:19:09 Sonar_Guy    Ah, that was one!  Southern_Gentlem do we want to walk them through building this from src or provide it from here?
Apr 16 21:19:12 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: cracking the whip if you will
Apr 16 21:19:20 Sonar_Gal    lol
Apr 16 21:19:23 Sonar_Guy    BobJensen: I will have it done for tuesday.
Apr 16 21:19:33 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: Good enough for me
Apr 16 21:20:00 Sonar_Guy    BobJensen: what do you think about that w32codecs?
Apr 16 21:20:20 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: about hosing a package?
Apr 16 21:20:26 BobJensen    hosting
Apr 16 21:20:31 BobJensen    No we can not
Apr 16 21:20:58 BobJensen    We should work with ignacio to keep his repo alive for that if nothing more
Apr 16 21:21:16 Sonar_Guy    Ok, so the how-to would walk them through setting up a rebuild environment and then repackaging it from src.rpm
Apr 16 21:21:17 Southern_Gentlem    we could not should i think
Apr 16 21:21:42 BobJensen    I have no problem hosting it on my servers as ignacio is a client of mine but I do not want it under the unity name at this time
Apr 16 21:22:08 Southern_Gentlem    isnt there some legal questions in the us about win32codecs
Apr 16 21:22:15 BobJensen    right
Apr 16 21:22:22 BobJensen    ignacio is in Canada
Apr 16 21:22:29 Southern_Gentlem    but is the server
Apr 16 21:22:33 BobJensen    may also be rough waters but...
Apr 16 21:22:55 Sonar_Guy    So 2 posts!  1 on repackaging/setting up a rebuild environment.  The other on how to repackage various packages from src.rpm.
Apr 16 21:23:13 BobJensen    If someoen knocks on my door about it being hosted by him I have plausable deniability
Apr 16 21:23:22 Southern_Gentlem    install 32 bit firefox on a 64bit system
Apr 16 21:23:47 Sonar_Guy    Ok so that is a #3 install 32 bit firefox on a 64bit system
Apr 16 21:23:50 BobJensen    See how I get around the Legal there?
Apr 16 21:24:03 Sonar_Guy    Southern_Gentlem: I think I have all the Info on that one.
Apr 16 21:24:24 BobJensen    right now the unity domains are in my name, I better know what they are hosting
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Apr 16 21:24:56 *    BobJensen does a little legal dance sometimes
Apr 16 21:24:59 Sonar_Guy    Yep, Is there an issue with a post about repackaging w32codecs?
Apr 16 21:25:06 Southern_Gentlem    now if i can get rsync to download all the updates i could see if i can roll out a new dvd.iso
Apr 16 21:25:55 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: from what I understand as long as we have a clear disclaimer about the potential liability we  sould be covered only providing a howto
Apr 16 21:26:01 q1    w32codecs -- that sounds like something that goes with mplayer?
Apr 16 21:26:16 Sonar_Guy    Yep.
Apr 16 21:26:17 BobJensen    q1: yes many players will use it
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Apr 16 21:26:28 BobJensen    q1: mplayer being the main
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Apr 16 21:26:56 Sonar_Guy    Southern_Gentlem: there was one more!??
Apr 16 21:27:10 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: I will check with my lawyer on that this week just to see what he thinks
Apr 16 21:27:24 Southern_Gentlem    not that i know of
Apr 16 21:27:28 Sonar_Guy    Ok, we do have an alternative.  hehe
Apr 16 21:27:42 Southern_Gentlem    win32codecs
Apr 16 21:28:01 Southern_Gentlem    and firefox 32 on _64
Apr 16 21:28:09 BobJensen    OK three new post ideas
Apr 16 21:28:33 Southern_Gentlem    now if i can get rsync to download all the updates i could see if i can roll out a new dvd.iso
Apr 16 21:28:36 BobJensen    so we have closed items, FC5 and Login
Apr 16 21:28:53 BobJensen    three new post ideas
Apr 16 21:29:02 BobJensen    search is up in the air...
Apr 16 21:29:18 Southern_Gentlem    which i want to get down this week so i can test it out at a installvest next weekend
Apr 16 21:29:24 BobJensen    Spinning update ISOs for i386
Apr 16 21:29:51 Southern_Gentlem    yep
Apr 16 21:29:58 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: let me get a machine online here for us to build on and house a mirror
Apr 16 21:30:25 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: I will have the machine onine tonight and start the FC5 sync
Apr 16 21:30:38 Southern_Gentlem    BobJensen,  if i can do it here locally then i will have a better feel on doing it remoely
Apr 16 21:30:39 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: tomorrow we will get you a login on it
Apr 16 21:30:51 Sonar_Guy    rjune: ping
Apr 16 21:30:51 Southern_Gentlem    ok
Apr 16 21:30:57 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: that way it will be ready when you are
Apr 16 21:31:11 Southern_Gentlem    Sonar_Guy,  we are in a meeting he aint here
Apr 16 21:31:15 Sonar_Guy    BobJensen: rjune had an Idea about bounties for fedora also.
Apr 16 21:31:16 Southern_Gentlem    lol
Apr 16 21:31:19 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: this machine wil also be for us doing packaging tests
Apr 16 21:31:36 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: Have you read nman64's email on the subject?
Apr 16 21:31:48 Sonar_Guy    No, where was it?
Apr 16 21:31:53 BobJensen    Let me check
Apr 16 21:32:18 BobJensen    Devel-list
Apr 16 21:33:01 Questor    http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraBounties ?
Apr 16 21:33:02 BobJensen    there are two related wiki links
Apr 16 21:33:05 BobJensen    Yup
Apr 16 21:33:16 BobJensen    and SummerOfCode
Apr 16 21:33:31 Southern_Gentlem    how about a little info bob
Apr 16 21:34:47 BobJensen    I have no info
Apr 16 21:34:55 BobJensen    just passing on what I have seen
Apr 16 21:36:03 Sonar_Guy    Southern_Gentlem: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-April/msg00849.html
Apr 16 21:36:11 BobJensen    thanks Sonar_Guy
Apr 16 21:36:13 Sonar_Guy    np
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Apr 16 21:36:25 Sonar_Guy    The sneaky bastard I am hehe
Apr 16 21:36:31 BobJensen    Now what about the "look and feel" of our sites?
Apr 16 21:36:37 Sonar_Guy    q1: Issues?
Apr 16 21:36:50 BobJensen    is the current design what we want?
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Apr 16 21:37:05 BobJensen    do we want a FC5 focused design?
Apr 16 21:37:40 Sonar_Guy    Hmm, it would be nice.
Apr 16 21:37:50 Sonar_Guy    but is it worth the effort?
Apr 16 21:37:51 BobJensen    I personally would like to create a new design that matches FC5
Apr 16 21:38:02 BobJensen    the whole Bubble theme
Apr 16 21:38:26 Southern_Gentlem    oh gawd
Apr 16 21:38:31 BobJensen    I have the skils, and I have the time
Apr 16 21:38:43 Sonar_Guy    I think leaving the top the way it is and adding something like this is not too bad http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview
Apr 16 21:38:50 BobJensen    however business is slow so I should be putting time  in to making money
Apr 16 21:39:09 Southern_Gentlem    the bubbles have the menu on top of the page like video
Apr 16 21:39:18 Southern_Gentlem    than more bubbles
Apr 16 21:39:35 Sonar_Guy    BobJensen: a background like this would not bee too obnoxious http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiGraphics?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=tablebg.png
Apr 16 21:39:47 BobJensen    I would like make the banner look more like the banner in anaconda
Apr 16 21:40:14 Southern_Gentlem    i really dont see anything wrong with what we have now
Apr 16 21:40:58 BobJensen    http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tours/FedoraCore5/001_InstallSplash
Apr 16 21:41:19 BobJensen    there is nothing wrong with what we have now
Apr 16 21:41:40 BobJensen    an update might be nice and a custom template might allow us more control
Apr 16 21:41:40 Sonar_Guy    How would you work the page titles in?
Apr 16 21:42:17 Sonar_Guy    lol watch this!!  hehe
Apr 16 21:42:18 >chanserv<    op #fedora-unity
Apr 16 21:42:19 *    ChanServ gives channel operator status to Sonar_Guy
Apr 16 21:42:42 Sonar_Guy    Gonna wake up rjune
Apr 16 21:42:47 BobJensen    lol
Apr 16 21:42:56 *    Sonar_Guy has kicked rjune from #fedora-unity (Sonar_Guy)
Apr 16 21:42:56 *    rjune (n=rjune@oh-67-76-200-198.sta.sprint-hsd.net) has joined #fedora-unity
Apr 16 21:43:05 BobJensen    K/B
Apr 16 21:43:11 BobJensen    then unban
Apr 16 21:43:17 Southern_Gentlem    so why do you think that will wake him up
Apr 16 21:43:27 Sonar_Gal    Bob at least he didn't kick himself this time
Apr 16 21:43:30 Sonar_Guy    He is watching, just being quiet!!
Apr 16 21:43:35 *    Sonar_Guy removes channel operator status from Sonar_Guy
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Apr 16 21:44:04 Southern_Gentlem    his client could be auto rejoin
Apr 16 21:44:13 BobJensen    so live with the design and template we have or invest time in to learning the templates and getting a new design option as a bonus?
Apr 16 21:44:19 Sonar_Guy    Oh, I know it is!!
Apr 16 21:44:46 Southern_Gentlem    live with it at this point
Apr 16 21:44:57 Sonar_Guy    +1
Apr 16 21:45:07 Sonar_Gal    +1
Apr 16 21:45:14 BobJensen    K
Apr 16 21:45:23 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Apr 16 21:45:23 Sonar_Guy    I say live with it for now, then go forward with a change in FC6
Apr 16 21:45:36 Sonar_Guy    Gives time to tweak and play
Apr 16 21:45:53 BobJensen    one thing BTW I was hoping to gain was a place to put banners foor a "in house ads"
Apr 16 21:46:15 Sonar_Guy    Hmm, on the bottom or top?
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Apr 16 21:46:19 BobJensen    like banner links to Fedora Search, RedHat Magazine, things like that
Apr 16 21:46:38 Southern_Gentlem    css help things
Apr 16 21:46:40 Southern_Gentlem    ?
Apr 16 21:46:49 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: I would want to build them in to the top so we do not take up more realestate
Apr 16 21:47:22 Sonar_Guy    Hmm, ok.
Apr 16 21:47:57 Sonar_Guy    I have no issues with that.
Apr 16 21:48:20 Sonar_Guy    I would not even have an issue with On-Topic google ads. 
Apr 16 21:48:27 Southern_Gentlem    at this point that could go on the site now
Apr 16 21:48:33 BobJensen    With out knowing the template system I do not know what all we can achieve
Apr 16 21:48:48 Sonar_Guy    Would help offset server/maintenance costs
Apr 16 21:48:58 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: I hate the google ads
Apr 16 21:49:02 Sonar_Guy    lol
Apr 16 21:49:03 Sonar_Gal    lol
Apr 16 21:49:21 Sonar_Guy    But they are not too obnoxious.
Apr 16 21:49:22 Southern_Gentlem    i hate to have ads on our sites untill we have to do it
Apr 16 21:49:35 Sonar_Guy    Ok, just an Idea.
Apr 16 21:49:41 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: however we could do that but only IMO if they were in a vertical column on the right
Apr 16 21:49:42 nman64    BobJensen: We can achieve anything.  ;-)
Apr 16 21:49:54 Sonar_Guy    hola nman64
Apr 16 21:49:55 BobJensen    nman64: this is what I am thinking
Apr 16 21:50:06 Sonar_Gal    evening nman64
Apr 16 21:50:18 Southern_Gentlem    BobJensen,  i disagree with columns of ads on left or right
Apr 16 21:50:28 nman64    Heh.  I decided I had been a spectator long enough.  ;-)
Apr 16 21:50:44 Sonar_Gal    rjune, ping
Apr 16 21:50:49 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: I say we shelve a google ads idea until we need to look at hardware upgrades sometime next year
Apr 16 21:51:14 Sonar_Guy    BobJensen: CyberSpy was wondering if he could post some fedora mobile related projects on FM.o, I told him to go ahead and sign up for an account.
Apr 16 21:51:14 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: just my opinion
Apr 16 21:51:18 Southern_Gentlem    banner ads a top is one thing but i think we should protect our real estate
Apr 16 21:51:31 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: I am with you
Apr 16 21:51:31 Sonar_Guy    +1
Apr 16 21:51:36 BobJensen    +1
Apr 16 21:51:44 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Apr 16 21:51:48 Sonar_Gal    +1
Apr 16 21:51:52 BobJensen    we have passed our 6 month mark I guess
Apr 16 21:52:00 Southern_Gentlem    nman64,  the more the merrirer
Apr 16 21:52:14 Sonar_Gal    Bob-Laptop, yes we have and we have come a long way in 6 months
Apr 16 21:52:16 Sonar_Guy    Yup, time for nominations again.  Touch that next meetomg?
Apr 16 21:52:26 Sonar_Guy    meeting?
Apr 16 21:52:28 BobJensen    we were suppose to look at a formal 'leadership" around now
Apr 16 21:53:19 BobJensen    can we set an idea of "possitions" for the next week meeting and nominations, voulenteers the week after?
Apr 16 21:53:43 Sonar_Gal    ok
Apr 16 21:54:00 BobJensen    then vote sometime in the future after that?
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Apr 16 21:54:05 Southern_Gentlem    nominate that we keep things as they are now till we reach the one year mark
Apr 16 21:54:17 Sonar_Guy    +1
Apr 16 21:54:34 BobJensen    I think we need to add a littl e more formal structure
Apr 16 21:54:46 nman64    Methinks we should focus on content right now.  Everything else is secondary.
Apr 16 21:54:55 BobJensen    nman64: +1
Apr 16 21:54:56 Sonar_Guy    +1
Apr 16 21:55:01 Sonar_Gal    +1
Apr 16 21:55:02 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Apr 16 21:55:19 BobJensen    well is everyone cool with "going as is" for anothe 6 months?
Apr 16 21:55:26 nman64    Aye.
Apr 16 21:55:26 Southern_Gentlem    things are moving in the right direction at this point, i see no need to make a change at this point
Apr 16 21:55:26 BobJensen    I am
Apr 16 21:55:30 Sonar_Guy    +1
Apr 16 21:55:35 Sonar_Gal    +1
Apr 16 21:55:38 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Apr 16 21:55:39 Sonar_Gal    No problems here
Apr 16 21:55:48 BobJensen    if anyone needs to step back all they have to do is say so
Apr 16 21:56:02 Sonar_Guy    Agreed
Apr 16 21:56:05 BobJensen    it is not like we are high pressure or anything
Apr 16 21:56:22 BobJensen    other than that task list item
Apr 16 21:56:34 *    BobJensen looks for his bull whip
Apr 16 21:56:42 *    Sonar_Guy runs and hides!!
Apr 16 21:56:51 Sonar_Gal    BobJensen, Frying pan is at the ready
Apr 16 21:57:00 Sonar_Gal    for Guy
Apr 16 21:57:11 BobJensen    Sonar_Gal: You are OK with staying our leader? even if I don't shut up sometimes
Apr 16 21:57:46 Southern_Gentlem    BobJensen,  she can always go op and devoice you if needed
Apr 16 21:57:49 Sonar_Gal    BobJensen, Everything has been running great for 6 months,  So we should just leave it be for now
Apr 16 21:57:58 BobJensen    Everyone: If I am every to much "hey do it my way" please kick me in the ass
Apr 16 21:58:19 Sonar_Gal    hehe
Apr 16 21:58:30 Sonar_Guy    We do that anyway bob!!
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Apr 16 21:58:37 BobJensen    I enjoy this project way to much and get going 90M.P.H. sometimes
Apr 16 21:58:55 Sonar_Guy    Southern_Gentlem: I will get those posts started.
Apr 16 21:59:03 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: NO
Apr 16 21:59:09 Southern_Gentlem    BobJensen,  you usually have a good reason for the way you want to do things, and you are willing to explain the advantages and disadvantages
Apr 16 21:59:13 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: You will get the task list fixed
Apr 16 21:59:22 Sonar_Guy    at least private until they are ready to go.
Apr 16 21:59:32 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: NO
Apr 16 21:59:33 Sonar_Guy    Yes task list first!!  My mission tomorrow night!!
Apr 16 21:59:35 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: You will get the task list fixed
Apr 16 21:59:39 BobJensen    LOL
Apr 16 21:59:41 Sonar_Gal    hehe
Apr 16 22:00:04 Southern_Gentlem    so what are the task that need to be listed
Apr 16 22:00:27 Sonar_Guy    Then I will setup the working posts for inputs.  Got them in the meeting minutes and the current task list that is horked.
Apr 16 22:00:46 Sonar_Guy    I can pull the data out and go from there.
Apr 16 22:00:59 BobJensen    OK
Apr 16 22:01:20 Sonar_Guy    Thinking about setting up the task list and linking the tasks to the events calender
Apr 16 22:01:32 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: +1
Apr 16 22:01:39 Sonar_Gal    +1
Apr 16 22:01:42 Sonar_Guy    may need some help from nman64 on that though!!
Apr 16 22:01:58 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: I also want to get out events linked to the FC6 release dates once posted
Apr 16 22:02:09 BobJensen    s/out/our
Apr 16 22:02:26 Sonar_Guy    Ok
Apr 16 22:02:37 Southern_Gentlem    http://www.smartcal.com/ is a good cal for websites
Apr 16 22:02:39 Sonar_Guy    Southern_Gentlem: our task list is here http://fedoraunity.org/fedoraunity-org-meeting-information/fedora-unity-project-task-list/
Apr 16 22:02:47 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: another idea is the events that ambassadors are going to be at
Apr 16 22:03:28 Sonar_Guy    That would also be nice.
Apr 16 22:03:37 BobJensen    nman64: is there a way to have all the Events Cals share a single point of entry?
Apr 16 22:03:56 BobJensen    nman64: so all the cals are the same
Apr 16 22:04:12 nman64    BobJensen: One way or another, I'm sure it's possible.
Apr 16 22:04:13 BobJensen    and we only have to enter once
Apr 16 22:04:14 Sonar_Guy    but the task list is first.  Then tie it to the events, and link/import the other items.
Apr 16 22:05:04 BobJensen    OK My first task is to get the mirror up for FC5 for the build box
Apr 16 22:05:25 BobJensen    I will drop in a drive tonight and get it installed
Apr 16 22:05:54 BobJensen    Mirroring base, extras, updates-released an livna
Apr 16 22:06:11 BobJensen    Mailing List...
Apr 16 22:06:16 Sonar_Guy    +1
Apr 16 22:06:32 BobJensen    do we want/need one at this point for added structured communication?
Apr 16 22:06:39 Southern_Gentlem    at this point do we need to mirror anything else but updates
Apr 16 22:07:01 Southern_Gentlem    rather why are we mirroing anything
Apr 16 22:07:24 Sonar_Guy    Yes that way once a week we can do mailings of the task lists, and other items of interest for the meetings.
Apr 16 22:07:28 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: once we start building package ideas for livna and extras i think the added packages will come in handy
Apr 16 22:07:45 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: to speed up build times
Apr 16 22:08:26 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: I have the hardware here at the house and the bandwidth, might as well use it
Apr 16 22:08:46 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: anythign we do here at the house costs me next to nothing
Apr 16 22:08:58 Southern_Gentlem    ok
Apr 16 22:09:11 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: it is the stuff we do for the general public that can cost us money
Apr 16 22:09:22 Southern_Gentlem    ok
Apr 16 22:09:36 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: everything here is essentially "members only"
Apr 16 22:10:01 BobJensen    just trying to make things as easy as we can
Apr 16 22:10:46 Southern_Gentlem    so did we drop this tasks???
Apr 16 22:11:10 Southern_Gentlem    Back port our posts for older FC versions include links to Fedora Legacy in those solution items
Apr 16 22:11:23 BobJensen    Sonar_Guy: have you tried running the task list on tidy?
Apr 16 22:11:51 Sonar_Guy    Not yet, let me try that.
Apr 16 22:11:54 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: I think we need to at this time, we just do not yet have the man power
Apr 16 22:13:19 BobJensen    Backporting..anyone can backport a post of interest at anytime using the format we have been using
Apr 16 22:13:28 Southern_Gentlem    at this point setting up links to the fedoralegacy  project is all we need to do in the post correct
Apr 16 22:13:52 BobJensen    however, if you backport a post make sure you check once in a while to make sure it is still vallid
Apr 16 22:14:12 Southern_Gentlem    we have been backporting to fc4 while doing the fc5 post
Apr 16 22:14:24 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: for the posts that have lIvna instructions we would want to verify those
Apr 16 22:15:10 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: one thing we can also do here is set up FC1-FC3 Shell boxes
Apr 16 22:15:20 BobJensen    Errr
Apr 16 22:15:23 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: one thing we can also do here is set up FC1-FC4 Shell boxes
Apr 16 22:15:58 BobJensen    that way we can test the commands at least
Apr 16 22:16:40 BobJensen    hell for that matter you guys could instal the VMware client and try pulling the desktop over the net
Apr 16 22:17:03 Southern_Gentlem    BobJensen,  i disagree going back that far myself
Apr 16 22:17:27 Southern_Gentlem    if we can support the current version and one back should be plenty
Apr 16 22:17:32 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: No objection here, IMO we need the "current releases" only
Apr 16 22:17:39 Southern_Gentlem    the fedora project is ever changing
Apr 16 22:17:47 BobJensen    right
Apr 16 22:18:32 Southern_Gentlem    i think the way the post are now with nothing about previous releases will push people looking for that info to updaaate
Apr 16 22:18:35 BobJensen    Sonar_Gal: anything else?
Apr 16 22:18:56 Sonar_Gal    Not that I know if since no dameastro or rjune
Apr 16 22:18:57 Southern_Gentlem    previous release older than fc4
Apr 16 22:19:11 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: exactly
Apr 16 22:19:39 Southern_Gentlem    so back to my question
Apr 16 22:19:50 Southern_Gentlem    Back port our posts for older FC versions include links to Fedora Legacy in those solution items
Apr 16 22:20:00 Southern_Gentlem    i think this tasks is done
Apr 16 22:20:35 BobJensen    We do not need to link to Fedora legacy IMO we are focused on the "current releases"
Apr 16 22:20:43 BobJensen    done and or closed
Apr 16 22:20:51 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Apr 16 22:20:58 Southern_Gentlem    Sonars?
Apr 16 22:21:05 BobJensen    nman64?
Apr 16 22:21:17 *    Sonar_Gal now calls this meeting to a close
Apr 16 22:21:33 BobJensen    task closed
Apr 16 22:21:35 Southern_Gentlem    we have a question on the floor
Apr 16 22:21:47 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: I think everyone agreees
Apr 16 22:21:58 Southern_Gentlem    bob at least me and you do LOL
Apr 16 22:22:12 BobJensen    Southern_Gentlem: that is good enough for me
Apr 16 22:22:17 Sonar_Gal    I agree
Apr 16 22:22:31 Sonar_Guy    +1
Apr 16 22:22:48 Southern_Gentlem    thats 4 out of 5
Apr 16 22:22:59 BobJensen    that is 4 of the 6 tha have been active this meeting
Apr 16 22:23:31 Sonar_Gal    Southern_Gentlem, for FC3 and lower yes it's probably easier to point to the FC legacy solution
Apr 16 22:23:59 BobJensen    I say ignore them
Apr 16 22:24:06 Southern_Gentlem    ignore them
Apr 16 22:24:08 Sonar_Gal    lol
Apr 16 22:24:29 BobJensen    we focus on FC4 and FC5
Apr 16 22:24:35 Southern_Gentlem    no info will help  push people to upgrade to newer release
Apr 16 22:25:03 BobJensen    if they want older stuff they can ask for it, figure it out and contribute or upgrade
Apr 16 22:25:09 Southern_Gentlem    if fc6 comes out and its a dog we can revisit the issue with fc4
Apr 16 22:25:21 BobJensen    _1
Apr 16 22:25:24 BobJensen    _1
Apr 16 22:25:27 BobJensen    grrrr
Apr 16 22:25:31 BobJensen    +1
Apr 16 22:25:35 Sonar_Guy    +1
Apr 16 22:25:36 Sonar_Gal    lol
Apr 16 22:25:39 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Apr 16 22:25:40 Sonar_Gal    +1
Apr 16 22:26:01 Southern_Gentlem    not worth our time and resources at this point
Apr 16 22:26:31 Sonar_Gal    correct
Apr 16 22:27:23 BobJensen    can we call a meeting for wednesday Eve this week to talk with damaestro?
Apr 16 22:28:18 Sonar_Gal    That's fine with Both Guy and I
Apr 16 22:28:29 Southern_Gentlem    i will try to make it
Apr 16 22:28:33 Southern_Gentlem    +1
Apr 16 22:28:58 Southern_Gentlem    my plate is pretty full this week with the installvest
Apr 16 22:29:57 Southern_Gentlem    make the motion to close meeting now
Apr 16 22:30:40 *    BobJensen hands Sonar_Gal the DONE stamp
Apr 16 22:31:12 Sonar_Gal    lol
Apr 16 22:31:22 *    Sonar_Gal now calls this meeting to a close